Stock Hideout


  Stock Hideout > Stock Message Boards > Large Market Capitalization
Symbol Search
Newsletter Signup

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
RSS Feed for "VSE"

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 11-01-2008, 12:18 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 20
Default VeraSun Energy Corporation - VSE

[Moderators: I'm sorry--I always seem to write about stocks for which a thread doesn't already exist. ]

I bought Verasun shares almost two years ago, but I dumped the shares as soon as it became clear that Verasun’s management is dirty.

First, in May 2007, they issued $450,000,000 in Senior Notes without indicating why they needed the funds. At the time, I thought the issue was ridiculous because Verasun already had $287 million cash (see their 10-Q for the quarterly period ended March 31, 2007). However, I decided to wait and see how they would use the proceeds from the issue. I *hoped* that they would expand the distribution side of the company.

Then, in August 2007, Verasun acquired three ethanol refineries from ASA Holdings for $675 million. That’s approximately $225 million per refinery.

At that point, I dumped my shares because the deal smelled bad. The news media enthusiastically described the acquisition as “Verasun setting the bar in the ethanol industry for the purchase price of a refinery”. What a crock! When Verasun constructed a refinery, the cost was $125 million. Should I believe that Verasun needed to pay a $100 million premium per refinery that they acquire??? What a crock!

A short time after the acquisition, Verasun shut down one of the acquired refineries, claiming that “market conditions were not right”.

They buy three refineries. They pay a $100 million premium for each refinery. Then, they shut down one refinery because it’s not needed. Is it possible that such stupid management exists on the face of the Earth? Nah, I say Verasun’s management is dirty.

The bankrupcy of Verasun is NOT the result of unfortunate circumstances. It was planned!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 11-01-2008, 07:34 PM
Chart Specialist
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 504
Blog Entries: 1
Default Re: VeraSun Energy Corporation - VSE

no problem, at least you check before posting I have added the prefix so now you should have the 3 latest news pieces on top of the thread and chart that you can change the timeframe on and to candles if you choose.
__________________
All my posts are purely my opinion. Please use your own buy and sell signals and never invest in a stock you can not afford to lose money on. For a complete disclaimer click here
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2008, 07:40 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 20
Default Re: VeraSun Energy Corporation - VSE

Moreover, the problem is not limited to Verasun. Bill Gates bought a large stake in Pacific Ethanol (symbol: PEIX) when the share price was high, many normal shareholders got sucked in by the "Bill Gates" name, then PEIX's share price crashed. Gates sold some shares at the bottom, presumably to make the normal shareholders feel better. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think Gates got rich by buying high / selling low.

Seems like the finance industry isn't the only industry plagued by unscrupulous behavior.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 11-12-2008, 05:31 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 20
Default Re: VeraSun Energy Corporation - VSE

Verasun's new symbol is "VSUNQ".
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
BAC Bank of America Corporation - BAC Stock_Analyzer Large Market Capitalization 3 10-14-2008 03:12 PM
RTC Resolution Trust Corporation MTnews Market News 0 09-18-2008 06:33 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:59 PM.

Clicky Web Analytics