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Old Mon, 02-27-2006, 09:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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“Auto-Surfing”: What You Need to Know

“Auto-Surfing”: What You Need to Know
In the world of marketing, people often get compensated — with cash or free products and services— for doing fairly easy things, like sampling new ice-cream flavors, filling out surveys, or allowing a firm to monitor the television shows you watch or the websites you visit. While some “money for nothing” opportunities may be perfectly legitimate, others can turn out to be frauds.

“Auto-surfing” is a form of online advertising that purportedly generates advertising revenue for companies that want to increase traffic to their websites. The premise behind auto-surfing is that companies that advertise on the Internet are willing to pay to increase traffic to their web sites. These companies hire an auto-surf firm or “host,” which in turn pays individual web surfers to view certain websites on an automatically rotating basis. The more sites the individual visits, the more money he or she stands to earn.

While auto-surfing may sound easy and appealing — and risk-free — there can be a hitch. Some auto-surf programs require their surfers to pay to participate, although perhaps not initially. When you first sign up to auto-surf, the firm might assign a limited number of sites for you to visit and pay you accordingly. Once you’ve made a modest amount of money, the firm might encourage — or even require — you to purchase a “membership” so that you can maximize your earnings. The program will promise high — often double or triple digit — returns on your investment in the program, often within days or weeks of joining.

The line you’ll hear is that the more you click, the more you collect. But the reality is that any scheme that requires you to pay to participate — and promises handsome rewards in no time at all for little to no effort on your part — bears many of the hallmarks of a “Ponzi” or pyramid scheme. These schemes look deceptively legitimate because the fraudsters behind them typically use money coming in from new recruits to pay off early stage investors. But eventually the pyramid will collapse when it gets too big. It’s simply not possible to “rob-Peter-to-pay-Paul" forever.

The SEC warns investors to be wary of any sort of “get rich scheme quick” scheme — and to be especially leery of opportunities that require you to pay to play. Before you pay a dime to make extra cash in your spare time, be sure to do a little due diligence:

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Compare promised yields with current returns on well-known stock indexes. Any investment opportunity that claims you’ll get substantially more could be highly risky — and that means you might lose money.


Check out the company before you invest. Contact the secretary of state where the company is incorporated to find out whether the company is a corporation in good standing. Also call your state securities regulator to see whether the company, its officers, or the promoters of the opportunity have a history of complaints or fraud. If a supposedly upright business lists only a P.O. box, you'll want to do a lot of work before sending your money!


Steer Clear of Testimonials. Watch out if the company’s promotional materials, contain “testimonials” from supposedly satisfied customers, especially if all the “testimonials” are full of praise.


"Guaranteed returns" aren't. Every investment carries some degree of risk, and the level of risk typically correlates with the return you can expect to receive. Low risk generally means low yields, and high yields typically involve high risk. If your money is perfectly safe, you'll most likely get a low return. High returns represent potential rewards for folks who are willing to take big risks. Most fraudsters spend a lot of time trying to convince investors that extremely high returns are "guaranteed" or "can't miss." Don't believe it.
For more information on investing wisely and avoiding costly mistakes, please visit the Investor Information section of the SEC’s website at www.sec.gov/investor.shtml.

http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/autosurf.htm
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“Auto-Surfing”: What You Need to Know
In the world of marketing, people often get compensated — with cash or free products and services— for doing fairly easy things, like sampling new ice-cream flavors, filling out surveys, or allowing a firm to monitor the television shows you watch or the websites you visit. While some “money for nothing” opportunities may be perfectly legitimate, others can turn out to be frauds.

“Auto-surfing” is a form of online advertising that purportedly generates advertising revenue for companies that want to increase traffic to their websites. The premise behind auto-surfing is that companies that advertise on the Internet are willing to pay to increase traffic to their web sites. These companies hire an auto-surf firm or “host,” which in turn pays individual web surfers to view certain websites on an automatically rotating basis. The more sites the individual visits, the more money he or she stands to earn.

While auto-surfing may sound easy and appealing — and risk-free — there can be a hitch. Some auto-surf programs require their surfers to pay to participate, although perhaps not initially. When you first sign up to auto-surf, the firm might assign a limited number of sites for you to visit and pay you accordingly. Once you’ve made a modest amount of money, the firm might encourage — or even require — you to purchase a “membership” so that you can maximize your earnings. The program will promise high — often double or triple digit — returns on your investment in the program, often within days or weeks of joining.

The line you’ll hear is that the more you click, the more you collect. But the reality is that any scheme that requires you to pay to participate — and promises handsome rewards in no time at all for little to no effort on your part — bears many of the hallmarks of a “Ponzi” or pyramid scheme. These schemes look deceptively legitimate because the fraudsters behind them typically use money coming in from new recruits to pay off early stage investors. But eventually the pyramid will collapse when it gets too big. It’s simply not possible to “rob-Peter-to-pay-Paul" forever.

The SEC warns investors to be wary of any sort of “get rich scheme quick” scheme — and to be especially leery of opportunities that require you to pay to play. Before you pay a dime to make extra cash in your spare time, be sure to do a little due diligence:

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Compare promised yields with current returns on well-known stock indexes. Any investment opportunity that claims you’ll get substantially more could be highly risky — and that means you might lose money.


Check out the company before you invest. Contact the secretary of state where the company is incorporated to find out whether the company is a corporation in good standing. Also call your state securities regulator to see whether the company, its officers, or the promoters of the opportunity have a history of complaints or fraud. If a supposedly upright business lists only a P.O. box, you'll want to do a lot of work before sending your money!


Steer Clear of Testimonials. Watch out if the company’s promotional materials, contain “testimonials” from supposedly satisfied customers, especially if all the “testimonials” are full of praise.


"Guaranteed returns" aren't. Every investment carries some degree of risk, and the level of risk typically correlates with the return you can expect to receive. Low risk generally means low yields, and high yields typically involve high risk. If your money is perfectly safe, you'll most likely get a low return. High returns represent potential rewards for folks who are willing to take big risks. Most fraudsters spend a lot of time trying to convince investors that extremely high returns are "guaranteed" or "can't miss." Don't believe it.
For more information on investing wisely and avoiding costly mistakes, please visit the Investor Information section of the SEC’s website at www.sec.gov/investor.shtml.

http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/autosurf.htm

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Thanks for the heads up!!
No problem. I was stung after visions of "paid of debt" were dancing in my head.
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The autosurf industry is far from over... And as soon as the dust clears, it will be back even fuller strength than it was before.

Originally posted by greenleafmedia in another section of the forums:

Are 12DailyPro and another autosurf Ponzi or Pyramid Schemes?
Copyright © 2006 Gobala Krishnan

Are "paid-autosurf" or "paid-to-surf" programs, the most popular being 12DailyPro and another autosurf, a scam? Some people would say they are. Some would disapprove even the use or those derogatory terms. Some don't even care as long as they make money.

However, to fully understand and separate the truth from mere propaganda, we need to analyze the terms themselves, and see if it applies. Here's a definition from Credit Research Foundation () of "ponzi schemes" or "pyramid schemes" :

"When the organizers of the scheme use the assets of new investors to make profit payments to the old investors. The scheme typically has no other source of revenue other than from the new investors. Ponzi schemes, often called pyramid schemes, progress geometrically until they reach the point that the operators cannot find enough recruits (victims) to continue the payout."

Most paid auto surf programs are not based on a multi-level marketing system, which means that they do not rely on new recruits to sustain their modus operandi or business operations. In fact, as a member of most auto-surf programs, recruiting new members is not even required. Even when they do have referral programs, it’s usually single-level or single-tier, avoiding the complications that are part and parcel of MLM programs.

The programs owners are quick to point out that autosurfs are not investment opportunities either. You simply get paid to view ads on the Internet, even if those ads can be displayed automatically without your constant attention. The programs owners relate their method of advertising as "similar to television ads".

So what's all the fuss about then?

It's simple: every new business model, especially when proven to work, will face public criticism and negative opinions from nay-sayers who don't understand why it doesn't fit their description of a traditional business. Often times these nay-sayers are not experts themselves, but rather succumb to their fear due to lack of understanding.

People fear what they don't understand, and the same scenario can be traced back in history when AMWAY has to fight public prosecution to prove the legitimacy of their business model. In fact, even the franchise business model (like McDonalds and KFC) was considered a scam in the beginning. “Guilty until proven innocent” seems to be the verdict with any new way of making money.

I don't presume to understand exactly how an autosurf program works, but based on the facts and definitions it’s definitely not a ponzi scheme or pyramid system. In time, when the storm has passed, some of these programs will proven their worthiness, and some will fold under the scrutiny and public pressure. Only the true opportunities will remain, and this could be a good thing for everyone.
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Maybe your right vipyr but as you know I am not sitting pretty from 12DP. So I felt obligated to tell the members here so they know the S E C/ F B I got involved.
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No problem. I was stung after visions of "paid of debt" were dancing in my head.
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Maybe your right vipyr but as you know I am not sitting pretty from 12DP. So I felt obligated to tell the members here so they know the S E C/ F B I got involved.
Agree, always risk involved, but the sec has no business being involved, and the attorneys involved are going to tear them up. No autosurf industry sells securities, or investment oppertunities... But nevertheless, you are right, people should be aware of the risk, just as they do with trading penny stocks.. Gotta grind out the bumps along the way, the same way the legalized pyrmids did such as amway and herbalife. Both of those came out smelling like roses, and are fortune 500 companies... Dont think any autosurf company will become one of those, but they will come out smelling like roses when all is said and done.
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SEC Shuts Down $50 Million Autosurf Ponzi Scam

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The autosurf industry is far from over... And as soon as the dust clears, it will be back even fuller strength than it was before.

Originally posted by greenleafmedia in another section of the forums:

Are 12DailyPro and another autosurf Ponzi or Pyramid Schemes?
Copyright © 2006 Gobala Krishnan

Are "paid-autosurf" or "paid-to-surf" programs, the most popular being 12DailyPro and another autosurf, a scam? Some people would say they are. Some would disapprove even the use or those derogatory terms. Some don't even care as long as they make money.

However, to fully understand and separate the truth from mere propaganda, we need to analyze the terms themselves, and see if it applies. Here's a definition from Credit Research Foundation () of "ponzi schemes" or "pyramid schemes" :

"When the organizers of the scheme use the assets of new investors to make profit payments to the old investors. The scheme typically has no other source of revenue other than from the new investors. Ponzi schemes, often called pyramid schemes, progress geometrically until they reach the point that the operators cannot find enough recruits (victims) to continue the payout."

Most paid auto surf programs are not based on a multi-level marketing system, which means that they do not rely on new recruits to sustain their modus operandi or business operations. In fact, as a member of most auto-surf programs, recruiting new members is not even required. Even when they do have referral programs, it’s usually single-level or single-tier, avoiding the complications that are part and parcel of MLM programs.

The programs owners are quick to point out that autosurfs are not investment opportunities either. You simply get paid to view ads on the Internet, even if those ads can be displayed automatically without your constant attention. The programs owners relate their method of advertising as "similar to television ads".

So what's all the fuss about then?

It's simple: every new business model, especially when proven to work, will face public criticism and negative opinions from nay-sayers who don't understand why it doesn't fit their description of a traditional business. Often times these nay-sayers are not experts themselves, but rather succumb to their fear due to lack of understanding.

People fear what they don't understand, and the same scenario can be traced back in history when AMWAY has to fight public prosecution to prove the legitimacy of their business model. In fact, even the franchise business model (like McDonalds and KFC) was considered a scam in the beginning. “Guilty until proven innocent” seems to be the verdict with any new way of making money.

I don't presume to understand exactly how an autosurf program works, but based on the facts and definitions it’s definitely not a ponzi scheme or pyramid system. In time, when the storm has passed, some of these programs will proven their worthiness, and some will fold under the scrutiny and public pressure. Only the true opportunities will remain, and this could be a good thing for everyone.

SEC Shuts Down $50 Million Autosurf Ponzi Scam


By Gregg Keizer, TechWeb News
2:26 PM EST Tue. Feb. 28, 2006

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The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Monday announced it had filed fraud charges against the owner of an Autosurf site who it accused of running a $50 million Ponzi scam and pocketing nearly $2 million herself.
Papers were filed last week in a Los Angeles federal court alleging that Charis Johnson, 33, of Charlotte, N.C., ran a Ponzi scheme using her 12dailypro.com Web site. As a result, Johnson has agreed to cease solicitation of new members, and her assets have been frozen.

Less than two weeks ago, the FBI opened an investigation into 12dailypro.com's promises of large returns on members' investments. In exchange for buying $6 units -- up to a maximum of $6,000 worth -- 12dailypro.com members were promised a 144 percent return within 12 days simply for viewing a dozen Web ads daily.

The SEC dubbed 12dailypro.com a "paid autosurf program" but said it was in reality an illegal Ponzi, a scam where income from incoming members is used to pay existing members' returns.

"The defendants falsely represented that upgraded membersSMQ-8217-SMQ earnings 'are financed not only [by] incoming member fees, but also with multiple income streams including advertising, and off-site investments,'" the SEC said in a statement issued Monday. "In fact, at least 95 percent of revenues have come from new investments in the form of membership fees from new or existing members. The other 'multiple income streams' from advertising revenues or off-site investments were either negligible or non-existent."

Johnson's scheme, said the SEC's complaint, had raised more than $50 million from over 300,000 members since mid-2005. Johnson, meanwhile, had transferred about $1.9 million from 12dailypro.com to her personal bank account, the SEC alleged.

The SEC asked the court to freeze Johnson's and 12dailypro.com's assets, as well as those of her payment providers, which included StormPay, an online payment service based in Tennessee that is under investigation by state authorities.

12dailypro essentially shut down after StormPay, which said it suspected an illegal scheme, turned off the payment spigot in late January. In less than two weeks, StormPay was hit with a denial-of-service (DoS) attack that knocked it offline for two days. The DoS attacker has not been identified.
http://www.crn.com/sections/breaking...leId=181401412
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The SEC was denied their case by a federal judge... More news to come... 12dailypro is going to be back open for business within a few weeks. It was nothing more than an ambush by the SEC, only they got the wrong party.. The FBI is now setting its sites on Stormpay, the company that stole the money that was due to the 12dailypro members.
Also, Wells Fargo bank is filing charges against stormpay as of 4 days ago...
12dailypro will be back open for business in a few weeks, right along with the many other autosurf sites, that are continuing to operate as this time.
12dailypros attorneys submitted papers to the judge, proving that the real fraud has been happening with stormpay.
Also, you might check out http://talkgold.com/forum/r77400-.html as the owner of 12dailypro is being given a salary of $5,000 per month from the SEC as we speak. And her attorneys are getting $10,000 per month from them, for loss of business, because nothing has been proved as of yet, nor will it ever be proven.
The SEC is covering their butts because they know that 12dailypro will be cleared in the end. Its going to be funny as hell when the dust clears...
But in the mean time, there is plenty of money to be made.... Im back in the autosurf business of making money over at BlackGold-Surf, until 12dailypro is back up running again, which will be very soon... More news to follow.
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Court Docket

Seems to me from the order that 12DP is not proven to be a ponzi and SP has no right to freeze the funds and they should unfreeze them. Once again, it is Stormpay`s crime, not 12DP. This case is about over already...before it even got started.

Official Docket for SEC v Johnson et al

02/21/2006 1 COMPLAINT against Defendants Charis Johnson, LifeClicks LLC, 12daily Pro. (Filing fee $ 250 PAID), filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission.(jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)

02/21/2006 20 DAY Summons Issued re Complaint - (Discovery)[1] as to Defendants Charis Johnson, LifeClicks LLC, 12daily Pro. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)

02/21/2006 2 CERTIFICATION AND NOTICE of Interested Parties filed by Plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)

02/21/2006 3 NOTICE TO PARTIES OF ADR PILOT PROGRAM filed.(jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 FAX number for Attorneys Kelly Curtis Bowers, Peter F Del Greco, Michael A Piazza, David J Van Havermaat is 323-965-3908. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)

02/21/2006 4 EX PARTE APPLICATION for Temporary Restraining Order, and Orders: (1) Freezing Assets; (2) Requiring Accountings; (3) Prohibiting the Destruction of Documents; (4) Expediting Discovery; (5) Appointing a Temporary Receiver, and Order to Show Cause regarding Preliminary Injunction and Appointment of a Permanent Receiver filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission. Lodged Proposed Order. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)

02/21/2006 5 MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES in Support of EX PARTE APPLICATION for Temporary Restraining Order, and Orders: (1) Freezing Assets; (2) Requiring Accountings; (3) Prohibiting the Destruction of Documents; (4) Expediting Discovery; (5) Appointing a Temporary Receiver, and Order to Show Cause regarding Preliminary Injunction and Appointment of a Permanent Receiver [4] filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)

02/21/2006 6 DECLARATION of PETER F. DEL GRECO in support of EX PARTE APPLICATION for Temporary Restraining Order, and Orders: (1) Freezing Assets; (2) Requiring Accountings; (3) Prohibiting the Destruction of Documents; (4) Expediting Discovery; (5) Appointing a Temporary Receiver, and Order to Show Cause regarding Preliminary Injunction and Appointment of a Permanent Receiver [4] filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)

02/21/2006 7 RECOMMENDATION by Plaintiff that Thomas F. Lennon Inc be Appointed Receiver filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 PLACED IN FILE - NOT USED re proposed temporary restraining order and orders: (1) freezing assets; (2) requiring accounting; (3) prohibiting the destruction of documents; (4) expediting discovery; (5) appointing a temporary receiver; and order to show cause re preliminary injunction and appointment of a permanent receiver submitted by plainitff Securities and Exchange Commission. (pbap, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)

02/21/2006 8 MINUTES OF IN CHAMBERS ORDER by Judge Nora M. Manella DENYING Without Prejudice Plaintiff's EX PARTE APPLICATION for Temporary Restraining Order, and Orders: (1) Freezing Assets; (2) Requiring Accountings; (3) Prohibiting the Destruction of Documents; (4) Expediting Discovery; (5) Appointing a Temporary Receiver, and Order to Show Cause regarding Preliminary Injunction and Appointment of a Permanent Receiver filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission [4]. The SEC may refile its application with declaration setting forth a factual basis for its claim that notice should not be required, may request a temporary restraining order with notice, and/or may move for a preliminary injunction. Court Reporter: n/a. (pbap, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
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